Originally written by Laurisa 12/02/11
Okay, I ask a lot of questions on SW so I figured it was time for another advice thread from me.
I work in Detroit metro primarily, I've also worked in Ohio (Toledo) and Louisiana (NOLA)--and done private parties in Metro Detroit and New York (Latham area).
In Detroit and the other areas I've named extras are rampant, but I've been lucky enough to figure out how to hustle and get around this so I can make money as a clean dancer--or clean by MY standards.
What I allow:
- Fully nude dances (mostly at clubs where it's legal, juice bars)
- Touching of my butt, breasts, stomach, legs (no inner thighs) for an additional fee
- Hard grinding
So competing with extras can be difficult, but when you allow high contact dances it's a little easier to sell it. If you are trying to get away with solely air dances in an area with heavy extras you will probably find it to be more trouble than it's worth mentally. You can try, and I wish you luck, but I wouldn't advise it if you are trying to make a consistent living. I'd suggest commuting or traveling to an area that is less known for extras.
With that being said, there are always customers who do not want prostitution in every club. The reasons vary, but I've found most of these guys are lonely and want a friend and a sensual experience. This is your target customer, most girls who provide extras don't want these customers because they are not willing to buy extras which means less money quickly for that dancer. They write these customers off and that is what you want. You can capitalize on this, and you have to learn to recognize these customers. From first glance it will probably be difficult, but if they look sober, somewhat nervous, and are casually dressed I've found it is less likely they will want extras.
If you are working in a high extras club the way you lead the conversation at the table should be a bit different from a normal club. You need to charm the customer, but within 1-2 minutes you should know what he is expecting. Ask him if he's visited the club before and what kind of fun he's planning on having that night. As soon as they mention extras it's probably better to excuse yourself, because these guys will usually waste your time talking and may only get 1-2 pity dances if at all because ultimately they want to get off.
When someone asks you for extras at a club that is extras ridden don't have a bad attitude unless they are very rude to you. If they are just asking what you are willing to do politely inform them that your services do not extend beyond lap dancing and sensuality. If you name call or raise your voice it makes you look bad to other customers, and you never know if that guy will bring a friend in another night who doesn't want extras. If he remembers you were mean to him he will tell his friend to stay away, but if he remembers you were polite and honest about not doing extras he might recommend you to his friend for a hot lap dance. These guys may also tip you on stage because you have a good attitude.
When you are hustling in high extras clubs the club itself knows what's going on and doesn't care what you charge for dances. They don't care about tacking on $20 to a $25 dance because girls are charging guys $100 for 2 songs while they blow them. This is your opening. A lot of these clubs have dances done in private rooms but they don't actually sell blocks of time. However, you can offer these package deals on your own!
Do the math:
5 $25 songs is roughly 15 minutes if each song is 3 minutes. This is $125. You can offer the customer a 15 minute dance in a private room/area for $100. That is a free song, $25 savings. This would be 20% off. Tell them if they buy 15 minutes worth of dances they save 20%. Tell them if they can touch your or not. Tell them you will be very sensual and that it will be quiet and private so you can get to know one another better.
Get smart with your numbers. They will do the hustling for you. When you get back there collect your funds upfront and stop the dance if they try anything repeatedly or violate you physically or mentally.
You have to be clever and outsmart the extras girls. Numbers will work on your side, and the way most clubs with heavy extras are set up will help you sell blocks of dances easier. It also leaves room for negotiation or charging more if you know/strongly feel the customer has the money.
I hope this helps some of you.
-Laurisa